The Million Year Life Span
[This is a lightly edited reprint of an article originally published at h+ Magazine, descending from an older Fight Aging! post, and returned again now in order to preserve it for posterity.]
I'm not going to try to convince you that the foreseeable future is a wondrous place: either you accept the implications of the present rate of technological progress towards everything allowed by the laws of physics, in which case you've probably thought this all through at some point, or you don't. Life, space travel, artificial intelligence, the building blocks of matter: we'll have made large inroads into bending these all to our will within another half century. Many of us will live to see it even without the benefits of medical technologies yet to come: growing up without the internet in a 1960s or 1970s urban area will be the new 1900s farmboy youth come 2040. Just like the oldest old today, we will be immigrants from a strange and primitive near-past erased by progress, time travelers in our own lifetimes.
A century is an exceptional life for a human, but far greater spans of years will be made possible by the technologies of the 21st century. I'll plant a flag way out there on the field and claim a million years: a life of a length hard to envisage. I am an advocate for engineered human longevity, and I started on the path that led to Fight Aging! and related projects from the position that (a) immortality would be an unalloyed good if achieved, and (b) our understanding of cosmology does not yet rule out a damn good attempt at actual immortality - the "no death, ever" dictionary definition - or at least a life span of millions of years on the way to that end goal. If a million years is not long enough to figure out the aspects of the problem that cannot be answered today, I'm not sure what would be.
Despite being out there, the million year life span is not an unsupported pipe dream. Living for a million years is a goal that can be envisaged in some detail today: the steps from here to there laid out, the necessary research and development plans outlined, and the whole considered within the framework of what is permissible under the laws of physics, and what the research community believes can be achieved within the next 20, 50, or 100 years.
Biotechnology is the first necessary step on this road of a million years: the biotechnology revolution, still in its early years, is a gateway to the future insofar as it will enable us to extend our healthy life spans by repairing the evolved world of nanoscale machinery within our cells and other vital biological systems. The future is only golden for you and I personally if we live to see it, and for many of us that will require rejuvenation biotechnologies like those worked on by the SENS Research Foundation. This golden future is one in which our biochemistry does our bidding, aging can be repaired, and molecular manufacturing is in full swing. It will be an age of bioartificial bodies, minds transferred to new and more robust mechanisms, artificial general intelligences, an end to most scarcities, and indeed, anything you might imagine that the laws of physics permit and enough time has passed to develop.
A philosophy of first things first is a good way to temper visions of the far future - and explains why I spend my time talking about rejuvenation biotechnologies, cryonics, and even basic common sense health practices that might stop you cutting a mere decade from your life expectancy. If we don't complete the first rung of the ladder, that being sufficient control over our biochemistry to slow and then repair aging, then all the rest of our thoughts on radical life extension are for nothing. If I'd been born twenty years earlier, I'd have ended up primarily a cryonics advocate and volunteer. As it is, it looks like these first decades of the 21st century are the era in which the first rung on the ladder of simply remaining alive forever - which is to say building the means to continuously repair the biological damage of aging in these bodies of ours - can actually be achieved. If we can live another 50 years, grabbing a year here with good health and a year there through incremental advances in geriatric medicine, and if we can build a large enough research community interested in serious work on rejuvenation along the way, then we may live in restored youth and vigor for centuries longer.
If you project forward into the future based today's accident rates, you'll find that an ageless human sustained by biotechnologies of cellular and biochemical repair has a life expectancy in the range of 1,000 to 5,000 years. Sooner or later that piano is going to fall upon your head hard enough that even advanced medical technology cannot fix your injuries in time. So the million year life span: how could that be achieved? The short and not terribly informative answer is that it will be accomplished by using advancing technology to dramatically reduce your vulnerability to fatal accidents, murder, and other unfortunate events that produce the same outcome. Once you start looking at living for even 100,000 years in much the same shape as you are today, it becomes apparent that almost any activity bears an unavoidable minimum level of risk that will jump up and kill you. Eating, swimming, walking ... breathing. Stretch out the timeframe far enough and the improbable and fatal will eventually occur.
The way past these risks is to change your form: your risk of fatality for any given activity is a function of your human physiology. Once the research and development community has achieved the goal of practical biotechnologies for the repair and reversal of aging, that will give us all a few hundred years of life in comparative statistical safety. Technological progress will continue across that long period of time, and I can't imagine that much of the toolkit needed for the next step in long-term risk reduction will remain beyond the capabilities of the human civilizations of the 2200s. Your own personal preferences for that next step will no doubt vary, but I would get my neurons replaced - slowly, one at a time over time, to ensure continuity of the self - with some form of much more robust, easily maintained nanoscale machinery. That allows for a range of new engineering possibilities: swapping out the body for whatever machinery of transport and support best minimizes risk; moving most of the business of life into a virtual world; physically separating my neurons while still remaining alive, conscious, and active.
It shouldn't be terribly controversial at this point to talk about machines that can do the job of a neuron, store all of the same information as a neuron, and integrate fully with surrounding real neurons. Researchers in recent years have assembled lobster neuron simulators from Radio Shack components, grown proof of principle neuron-circuit interfaces, designed and simulated nanomachine replacements for other cell types, and made great inroads into manipulating the internal machinery of cells. These are toys and clunky barnstorming exercises in comparison to what lies ahead, but my point is that this is an active line of research, worked on by thousands of scientists and developers. Similarly, I would hope that interacting via virtual worlds and splitting up one's machine neurons between various locations follows fairly straightforwardly from having machine neurons in the first place. If your brain is made up of artificial neurons, why not throw in an internet connection, adjunct computer hardware, and encrypted wireless communication protocols?
Physical distribution of the self across many disparate locations is in fact the key point when it comes to considering risk over the long term. Locations have much the same issues with time, probability, and bad events as people do. Meteorites are a risk to consider, as are landslides, earthquakes, war, and volcanoes. The way to reduce your location-based risk dramatically is to spread out. You might imagine a wireless brain, using whatever the most robust communications technology of the time happens to be, scattered in a thousand separate machine bodies or vehicles across a continent, or even the whole planet. That might be good for many millennia of falling pianos of various types. However, once you start digging back into the geological and astrophysical history of the solar system, it becomes clear that spreading out over an entire planet still leaves you at risk on longer timescales. Probably not from impact events: I'll be surprised if humanity and its machine descendants fail to solve that problem within the next few centuries. But there will always be war, nearby supernovae, large solar flares, unusually massive volcanic events, and other unpleasant line items, however. Supernovae are the biggest of the known concerns, given that I expect it to be a long, long time before preventing them is a practical and ongoing business for the civilizations that follow man.
What to do about all of this astrophysical and grand geological risk? Spreading out is an option once again. Increase the size of your vehicles and neuron-machines to shrug off the worst case radiation projections for a nearby supernova. Provide them with the means to move about the solar system, and become a spacefaring entity, spread out over a sizeable selection of orbits. By that point in time, your physical presence resembles a small country of machinery, automation, and layers of delegation: perhaps you are a million heavily shielded self-powered containers and transmission systems distributed beyond Pluto's orbit. There is a trade-off for spreading out so far, however, and that is that you must slow down. The speed of thought is determined by the speed of communication between the neurons and sections of your brain. If your brain is light hours wide, you will live very slowly indeed - but with a life expectancy so long that you come out far ahead in the end.
There are other paths forward with varying degrees of risk. You might decide not to spread out, but rather live very fast by running your machine neuron brain on more capable hardware, for example; if you can pass a hundred years of subjective time in a year of real time then you have reduced your subjective risk for many fatal occurrences a hundred-fold. That would be a pleasant enough life as a part of a community of people all running at the same speed, and there is even room for technological development and research to occur at a fair pace under such a scenario. At present our still young computing technology is very, very far removed from the known theoretical limits on computational efficiency. There is a great deal of headroom for the approach of living more rapidly.
But to return to the immortality question: is immortality impractical? Given existing mortality rates and the uncertainties in the timeline for completing efforts to repair and reverse the damage of aging, it may be unlikely for many of us alive today. If progress is too slow, or we are simply unlucky in matters of health, then we won't get past the first step on the path. In other words, we will die - or at best undergo cryosuspension and its attendant risks - before the advent of sufficiently good rejuvenation biotechnology. As for the bigger picture, it is far too early to say whether immortality, the "no death, ever" version, is actually impossible. That requires further research into cosmology - so you might give it a million years or so and ask me again. Regardless, the slope of technology and possibility is curving up ahead of us to great heights, and it'll be a wild ride either way. Missing out on any of it would be a real downer, so why not spend more of your time and resources helping to get the first step accomplished? We should all support the development of rejuvenation biotechnology, as it is the gateway to a life that may ultimately prove to have few limits.
Very nice those brain expansive ideas for the future (maybe scifi a bit, but lots of scifi became non-scifi, it becaome Real; still lots of scifi is still scifi and most likely will remain scifi fantasy (in our lifetimes at least)). SENS brushes with scifi and that a good and bad thing; but in a sense all that is medica lscience, biogerontology and biology continuously brush sci-fi and science-fiction's uncanny valley. Many things long ago that seemed scifi are now true and realized in reality (flying, by plane, checking atoms in microscope and 'other magical invisible forces' (electrons, ions, protons, quarks, neutron, DNA, light spectrum, go to the moon by spaceshuttle, build a 'space shuttle' and see planets in universe cosmos, ...etc),
and then there is death. That one is still scifi. But how many times have we hoped it's not scifi anymore and, SENS or anyother biorejuvenation or whatnot method, could allow us eternal life has been described in litterature so many times; because humans have feared theiw own death since the cradle of homo sapians 13 million years ago when we seperated from chimpanzees. Sometimes I would like to ask (by sign language) a monkey : ''Do you want to live eternally, be immortal..do you understand or can grasp that...to not die..be sick and tired...'' And that ape would answer me in sign language : ''F...yeah...if I have bananas forever, feel topshape and I'm here with my immortal clan..you betchya I've seen enough dead monkeys on your hand by the way - so Fix This Mess with your Oh-Hum better 'monkey-like' brain than my monkey one - and get me a banana while you're your way out, ok make that 2 bananas. My Hydra animal friends are immortal, they sting the buggers and they never die, double whammy. Monkey see Monkey do right, do like me (since you copied me first) and live eternally on a surplus of bananas when you make me (live eternally), you won't just keep that to yourself in your humans friends, right ? We are your animal friends you know, we're distant ape related cousins and you owe us''.
Upon hearing this, it would be all I need to know, that indeed immortality is they only redeemable choice in this (un?)redeemable? life. Animal are SAYING it : Immortality Is good, some of our Breathrens are immortal (hydras we're looking at you, do you hydras like being taken off their telomerase in the lab : NO, they need it for their immortality, otherwise they die) and we a couple semili-immortal plant friends (Baobabs and Bristle Cone Pines our biggest tallest oldest slowest friends who clock in 5 millinieas)
As for fleshy ones, our little oysters of clam quahogs clock 5 centuries. What's to say we can't clock in 5 million or bilion or innfinite years ? Hydras can, and you undesrtand how to get there, so join the animal kingdom already.
Average people are just not convinced, and ther are solid grounds why, (the science is very pseudo jargon...and Even if we explain to them...makes very little difference, as Antonio said...the depth of 'stubborness', into changing people's opnions is almost unfeasible - humans are set in their mindset right now; it's all BS until it's made. ONLY if SENS makes a healthy immortal mouse or insect...can THEN people believe (with their own two eyes), so of coursem it is better to target 'small increments' of life extension ...like AdG says..we give you 20-30 years tops..of healthy lifespan..but we will never claim outlandish claims of a 1000 year lifespan or hell farfetched immortality or curing death - it Could Possible But So Remotely not, that the chances of it happening (in our lifetime) are
see so people no don't believe it. It is just too ridiculous low/abysmal decimal/fraction of odds of happening. AdG was quick to reduce his 'a 1000 year old pesron is born today claim and put the LEV paper on the back burner' We have to remember you chances of dying after a 100 years old are Millions of Times higher...as you reach 110 and then 120, you are exponentially Assured of dying anyday (a study showed it). But if you were doing SENS therapies before that...maybe that could have rejuvenated you to 60 years old and you repeat that as loop repeatition infinitely and thus live immortaly. But that is extreme pure conjecture/paper theory not a real thing until it's done.
That is also why you don'T hear many scientist going aroud saying : Immortality lifespan, but of course. In a decade, no less...
rather they dismal message they put out is :
We will keep you healthy with senescence cell clearance and senolytics and CR and runnig, you will see, you will be healthy and live, maybe, to 90 or a 100, we aim 7 or 8 years of life extension as a Starting Point.
So now I ask you...can you detect the difference between the ultra-minimalist claims of regular scientists...and then the 1000-yaer lifespan or immortality claim of rejuvenation proponents. People immediatly smell bs on the latter and jsut think 'Look I will Be Dead..when immortality happens, it's not for the next 200 years...sorry..and Certainly not for the next 50 either...'
Great post Reason, I love your cautious optimism. I will join you in this wild ride.
If you have your neurons replaced and you have that internet connection, then you can make snapshots of your brain and backup those, every hour or so, and store the backups in the cloud (on and off planet). When the piano falls, we create a new, cloned body and restore the last backup.
That way, we stay a relatively normal human being with a normal body, not spread out beyond Pluto, thinking extremely slowly and body-less.
Having insomnia myself I'm interested in the state of sleep research
@CANanonymity its all about one bridge to the next. we dont need to "cure death" we just need to rejuvenate people well enough so that they survive long enough to be retreated with mmore advanced therapies decades down the road. plus this was january last year, a lot has happened since then
"why not throw in an internet connection, adjunct computer hardware, and encrypted wireless communication protocols". I went back and read this great article, but I'd like to offer a "why not".:
I've seen what a cell phone has done to my tween daughter. I've experienced the temptation of free, universally available on-line porn (although the vast bulk of it is misogynistic trash, devoid of even acting of love between the participants). I can easily imagine that visual data rates in to the brain could manipulate even the most wise or offer the abandonment of reality for more immediately rewarding simulations of life. Visual data rates out would allow complete thought surveillance, and given what we already know of the Deep State's panopticon, it would be monitored and evaluated. There must be a renewal of values and universally technology applicable effective reinforcement of the 4th and 5th Amendments to the US Constitution before I'll adopt a brain interface.
To me the key to achieving an extended lifespan begins with an augmented healthspan. If one can reasonably expect to survive another 3 or 4 decades, given a healthspan that allows health to be reasonably maintained over that period, then it will require just one breakthrough in that time that perhaps allows for an increased lifespan of say 10-15% to be taken advantage of, giving one a few more decades of "bonus" time. But that extra time may just be enough for a second breakthrough that can extend one's life even further, By this incremental process it might be possible to "bootstrap" oneself up the ladder of breakthroughs and emerge alive and well into the 22nd century.
Keep in mind that breakthroughs occur more frequently as knowledge increases faster and faster, and AI and possibly quantum computers could further speed up breakthroughs.
We simply don't know if any of that can or will happen, or whether the global political climate will allow for it. Only a continued period of political stability absent any manmade or natural disasters will allow that possibility.
but we can always hope!
TV series "resident alien" last episode of first season "heroes of patience" beginning and ending monologue "everyone has to die" (I'm posting this here because the corresponding google search has only 6 hits and none of protest. I have no idea how long it will take google to reindex this fa! page though.)
Why not a billion years?